Boris Johnson interview after "Boris on Brexit" event

The speaker emphasizes the need for the UK to change its approach in the second phase of Brexit negotiations, highlighting the importance of avoiding a backstop and ensuring the UK is not trapped in the customs union or regulatory alignment with the EU. The speaker suggests that without a significant change in strategy, the withdrawal agreement lacks sense. The discussion concludes with the urgency of deciding between backing the current deal or considering no Brexit at all.

What is the speaker's view on the importance of the second phase compared to the first phase?

How does the speaker feel about the possibility of 'no Brexit'?