CLEAN: Death of a former politician Kader Asmal, South Africa

The transcript reflects on the influence of Mr. Mandela, describing a sense of wonderment and the symbolic 'gold dust' he imparted. It discusses the challenges of meeting with a President, the evolution of leadership quality in the ANC, and the foundational values that must be upheld. The speaker shares an encounter with Mr. Malema, criticizing his approach to student demonstrations. The transcript concludes with a brief mention of writing memoirs.

In what way does the speaker suggest that people should respond to breaches of foundational values?

What concerns does the speaker express regarding Mr. Malema's actions and their consequences?